Washington’s Amendment 10 Stirs Discussion- Can We Save The Game?

April 5, 2013 in 7 On 7 Football, Codes, Combines, NORTHWEST Football Alliance, Other State Groups, Player Safety, Saving The Game by Football NW

Before I bore you all to death with the ins and outs of a newly proposed WIAA rule known as Amendment 10 I want to catch your attention with something.

High School football is on its way out.

Anyone paying attention knows this and while the reasons are complex please understand me.  If something does not change Friday Night Lights the way we know and cherish them are going to go out.

The WIAA has before it Amendment 10 which we think is a worthy effort!

The WIAA has before it Amendment 10 which we think is a worthy effort!

There are many reasons I could give for this and it might take a decade or two for it to take its full course.  But the last bastion of the Sport of Football that has not become completely ruined by money is starting to buckle at the knees and it is taking serious body blows.

Do you all understand the seriousness of the increase of Traumatic Brain Injuries in the sport?  

Are you paying attention to the rising numbers of kids being hospitalized and hurt for life every year while pursuing the game?  And are you aware of the over 5,000 NFL Legends who are now in on the law suits  seeking damages against their employer for abusing them and trading Billions in profits for their lives?

Well it is happening and there is litigation and law suit after lawsuit stacking up in virtually every State in the Nation.   As we write this two very very significant law suits are moving through the Washington Courts that involve two of Washington’s own; Andrew Swank (RIP) and Matthew Newman.  Both of them were  WIAA member school athletes severely injured and killed in 2009 while playing the game.

Football is the culprit.  

In the sense that we have all allowed the sport to become year around and not raised our hands and said “NO” we are culprits too.   Football was never year around.  Why?  Because it was always believed that it was too dangerous of a sport to play for more then a few months let alone a whole year.

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Just like High School Basketball, which is now ruined  as a result of AAU club teams in the eyes of many, football and it’s players are being courted by profit seeking groups to make a year around commitment.  Youth kids all over the country are playing full contact year around at a time in their lives where they are most at risk of permanent trauma.

As a result of 7 on 7 Leagues, run by private unregulated groups,  football has found its year around AAU.

Leagues and games  are run weekly and if you go to a tournament you will see the boys are not playing flag.  This is full contact action a great deal of the time.   People with no one to hold them accountable and no State agency or school body to oversee them are in a position to abuse the privilege to help the kids.  Some do a great job while others line their pockets and fail to provide even so much as a first aid kit.

What does this all have to do with Amendment 10?

WIAA High School Amendment 10,  AKA “High School Football Practice Requirements” would put a limit on the number of days a team can practice between the end of the Spring sports (Championships) which is apx. May 28th and July 31.  The Limit would be set to 10 padded practices and to a  limit of 20 days of football activity under the supervision of the high school  staff.

This limitation would include any 7 on 7 camps and Team Football camps which would count into the 20 days.

“We will be able to have weight room and conditioning in addition to the 20 days of football related activities,” said Lakewood High Coach Dan Teeter.  ”As it stands now we have had no limitations on how much contact we can have and we are one of the only States in the country that does not have limits.”

Why do we need limits?

What drove Teeter and Coaches like Dave Miller from Lakes to get behind this amendment?

“We are trying to protect the kids.  The #1 driving force behind this amendment for many of us is to limit the exposure to contact and protect the health of our kids,” said Teeter citing concussions and traumatic brain injuries as a primary concern he has as he looks at the game overall.  ”Protecting the athletes Statewide with clear parameters on this matter was what started the discussion.”

Limiting contact to protect the health of the kids.  YES!

This is a great Coach who gets it.  Most coaches get it.    And the reason we have to do this now more then ever is the fact that we now know Football is hurting kids between the ears.  When kids are hurt in high school or youth football that carries on for a lifetime.  They, in many cases, will never be the same.

The sirens call of Junior Seau pulling the trigger last year was heard louder then any before.  We have to stop doing things the way we have been doing them.  His death is 100% confirmed to be an extension of the CTE, pain, suicidal tendencies,  and dementia he was suffering from.  All caused by football.

Good Coaches love their players like their own kids.  And a good parent would never stand by and watch their children be put in harms way if it could be stopped.

If a Coach believes I am wrong I accept that.  But I have the NFL, the Center For Disease Control, USA Football, the NFHS, Boston Medical University, BIRI, The Sports Legacy Institute, and hundreds of other official groups and schools behind me.    So the proponents of Amendment 10!

“Since the #1 goal was to limit the amount of contact the off shoot discussion that grew from that was to limit the number of days of Football related activity and bring ourselves on line with other States.  We have some Coaches that lobbied for 12 days of  football related activity at a maximum.  Others wanted 25 days.  20 days was a consensus more or less,” said Teeter.

Coach Dan Teeter if the Lakewood Cougars is a guy who gets it.  Balancing the will to win with what is best for his kids!

Coach Dan Teeter of the Lakewood Cougars is a guy who gets it.  Balancing the will to win with what is best for his kids!

Some of the Coaches question Amendment 10 as it is proposed and seem to feel that its is the conservative opinion of a few schools and coaches.   Those doubters are the guys who might want to go hard a good portion of the open period and, having done so in past, it is easy to see why they feel they may be giving something up.  But we have to remember this is a game and unfortunately the standards that are considered acceptable now have been the result of a lot of funerals and crippled kids.

Teeter said he thinks 20 days is about right.

They Lakewood Cougars plan to start Spring practice May 28th with about 5 days of conditioning and then working their way into pads.  That will be followed by about 5 or 6 days of contact.    His Cougars will then have a week off to finish school and come back for 4 days in pads at a Team Camp.  That eats up about 8 days of Contact and about 16 days of his teams 20 days under the proposed rule.

“That leaves us 1 day for our annual passing league tournament.  Then we have 2-3 days left to do a helmets only practice or 7 on 7 practice or event if we want.  It will be about what we have been doing in the past.”

When the 20 days is up the guys will go into the weight room every day and work on Speed and Agility and conditioning.

Questions will abound-

Many questions will arise out of this proposed rule.  For instance can a school have a separate 20 days schedule for Freshmen, JV, and Varsity kids and spread it our across the May 28 to August 1 period?   How many days of the 20 must a school dedicate before the kids have their first day of contact?  Many feel it is 3 days and other say it is 10.  And can kids do a walk through with a Coach there?  What if there are pads and a football on the field and someone claims it was a “Football Related” activity outside the 20 days?  Who is keeping track?  And what will happen to those that abuse the rules?

All legitimate questions that Washington’s neighbor to the South, Oregon, and the OSAA have had to deal with.  Oregon has a similar rule as the proposal.  Things in Oregon work pretty darn well and the model they have is a good one.

Would Teeter like to see standards that we can all agree on Nationwide?

“Yes.  That would be great and maybe we can get there sooner then later,” he added.

The NFL for instance, by contract with the NFL Players Association, only allows a total of 12 Days of Contact all season.  One day a week more or less.   Did you read that?  12 days.  All Season.

Many coaches get the concept that “If the NFL does it this way we should do it this way”.  Nothing shocking about that.

In Texas, the cradle of hard-nosed blood and guts Friday Night Lights,  Senator Eddie Luccio III has introduced a bill limiting High School Football in Texas to 1 day of contact as week.    And it could pass and it should pass.

Lucio was driven by the Purdue Football Study that proved using sophisticated sensors that Football players lost intelligence during the football season last year.   And they became dumber in direct correlation to the number of blows they took.  At the end of the study this PHD scientists had to conclude that Football was making the Boilmaker student athletes dumber.

You think Amendment 10 is controversial?  Try getting folks in the NW to agree to that rule.

What is Wrong With Amendment 10?

In passing Amendment 10 the WIAA and the Washington High School Football community is simply joining the crowd.  It makes great sense.  It is time for Washington, which led the entire national concussion issue forward with the Zacahary Lysted Law, to take the next step and close the circle on this open period we have had.

Pass the Amendment Coaches.  Please.  It will put you on the right side of safety, best practices, and on the side of your kids safety.  The only side we know your all on anyway.

BUT…. Here is the Unintended Consequence.

The Amendment binds Washington Schools and their Coaches and staff to not host “football related activities” outside the 20 day period.

But it leaves wide open the fields and equipment and the kids to hook up with Private Coaches and camps and in essence be exposed to contact and blows anyway.   And do any of you think honestly that this will not happen?    It has and will happen all Summer just as it has been happening all Winter and Spring.

If the WIAA and the Coaches are serious about this, and I believe they all are, let’s be adult enough to realize that some schools and coaches are going to allow and or orchestrate the opportunities for their kids to have activities run by Private groups.  That means potential contact and thus the intent of this very worthy amendment is gutted by non-school related people.

“We get to handle the kids in the off season.  That is out time,” said a private 7 on 7 Coach we interviewed by phone last year.  ”The High School guys get them during the season.  Right now I am looking out for them.”

This is the face of the 7 On 7 – AAU- Street Agent Element.  The guy has a team of All Star kids (or so he says) who pay him and his staff to travel around the West competing in privately run non-padded full contact tournaments.  The very place we need our High School Coaches to be protecting our kids (their kids) we are telling them they can not be.

These are the guys that will move in and have no issues getting field space given to them to run their sideshow.  It is a Money Grab, a power grab, and it is bad for High School football.  This is a group of profit seeking, non-regulated  often criminal infested realm of private 7 on 7 sponsored teams.

These so called “Coaches” and sponsors are waiting for the day they can pry the regions best kids away from their school all together and travel the Nation running the Cash registers all the way.  If High School football ended today for all of us and the Friday Night Lights crowd they will not even miss a step.  Rather they will cheer as they take “their boys” off to handle them.

Millions of boys have experienced Friday Night Lights.  One of the last sacred things in America is in fact under attack!

Millions of boys have experienced Friday Night Lights. One of the last sacred things in America is in fact under attack!

 

Do not believe me?

Witness IMG Madden Football Academy and their new Private all star football high school.  This is one of many such schools planned to be open.  They will play 7-7 in the off season and train all year and travel in luxury to play High Schools that agree to play them.  It is the 100% basketball equivalent of Findley Prep or Oak Hill Academy.

 

 

COACHES STAND UP AND FIX THE PROBLEM

In the space between the 20 allowed days and the start of  Doubles in Washington the kids will be exposed to harm and they and their parents will shell out hundreds of dollars potentially to pay for them to attend events that their coaches would have been able to provide more safely and for almost no cost.

TO THE WIAA and Washington Coaches Association;    As an adjunct or addition to the Amendment 10 there needs to be a restriction on the use of the public schools facilities .  If they are not to be used for “football related activities” by the school staff then they should not be used by anyone.  If you do not fix this you are just exposing the kids to Contact by unsanctioned people who are not invested into the kids future, well being, and best interest.  I am suggesting that the moratorium or restriction you are seeking is a very worthy thing.  Do not gut the ability of the Amendment to protect kids by saying you can not control the private sector.  That is a false perception!

COACHES–DO NOT SLEEP WITH THE RATTLE SNAKES-   If you let Private 7 on 7 Groups use your facilities you are driving a nail into the Friday Night Coffin that is being built for you and your boys.  DENY ANYONE ACCESS TO YOUR SCHOOL if they are running any football event that you yourself can not run.

RESTRICT YOUR KIDS FROM ATTENDING EVENTS-   Coaches follow the lead of Chris Merrit in Florida.  A Head Coach who has lived this 7 on 7 and Combine nightmare and seen the worst of this.    He has told his kids if they want to play for him they will not go to any private 7 on 7 events or combines that he has not signed off on.  And you know what?  It works.  Talk with your kids and ask them to commit to talking about their intentions and be honest about what they are doing and how you can help them decide what is hype and what is safe and good.

Chris Merritt On 7-on-7 Football by ESPN
TO YOU PRIVATE COACHES AND CAMPS-   There are plenty of great private skill coaches who can assist kids and their parents to become better football players.   But they need to provide that in their own private facilities, with their own insurance, and truly should not be allowed to use school facilities during times that the schools can not.

I am an advocate of these private groups being able to approach the school districts and make their best case for using the fields for their legitimate camps.

But if we are all on the same team (WHICH AS I POINTED OUT ABOVE WE ARE NOT) then we can all play by the same rules.  If Amendment 10 is a good move, and I believe it is, then the many great friends I have made in the private camp and training sector can run their events during these open periods that the schools establish or something along those lines.  And if a camp is to be held during the new proposed restricted period out your best foot forward and get 100% agreement on everything your doing up front.

I want to challenge all of you private trainers and coaches to always put yourself in the position to be the guy to set the highest standards.

  • Provide a trainer and or doctor at your events.
  • Provide a criminal background check.
  • Offer campers at your events additional concussion insurance.
  • Sign a Code of Ethics with the Coaches and School districts
  • Commit yourself in writing not to ask the kids to pay for recruiting services
  • Always keep your focus on the boys of Fall and make the kids and their team #1 priority.
  • If your not doing those things then your a part of the problem and not the solutions.    You know who you are.   And offer revenue to the schools when you benefit from using their wonderful facilities.

What Would I Do?

I would vote to pass Amendment 10.

I would then immediately create a Task Force to tackle this private issue and begin to process of registering and licensing every private coach, camp director, and 7 on 7 team wanting to establish a business in the State of Washington.  I would bind them to an agency agreement, require background checks, require first aid and CPR training and concussion certification,   require them to sign a performance contract and agree on standards of conduct, and work out a stringent code of ethics that would forbid them from acting as a “street agent”  and trying to manipulate where kids play high school or college football.

They would all advertise their fees and rates upfront.

The agreement or contract between these vendors and the State of Washington and it’s people (Coaches and athletes especially) would be to always put their interests behind the best interest of the kids.  Many of them we deem legitimate have looked at these ideas and said “Yes I will” to us.  So we know it can be done.

And the Private Skill Coaches and Trainers have a huge role in the formula to keep High School Football vibrant.  We are not saying we do not respect the heck out of what many of them have done and are doing.  But if Coaches of our teams are handcuffed in many ways by rules so too must these folks.

 

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Ultimately I believe the public school coaches should be allowed to do what they feel is best with their kids within the confines of some Nationally agreed upon rules regarding not only the period that Amendment 10 is trying govern but the whole season.  Trying to keep coaches from being able to be with their High School players at all during the off season needs to change because the Genie is out of the bottle and the current rule of no involvement in the Winter / Spring is not working as the Private sector as so aptly shown.

Letting a Football Coach meet with his guys and some other schools once a week would not be the end of the world.  Again limit contact drills but let them work on some things and maybe, just maybe, football will not go the way of basketball.

But guys that is just what I would do.  And what do I know.

If your concerned about these issues and others consider joining the Northwest Football Alliance.  That is something a group of us have been discussing the past 2 years and by talking through this we can figure it out the best way for the kids.

Join The Northwest Football Alliance and work for solutions to save Friday Night Football.

Join The Northwest Football Alliance and work for solutions to save Friday Night Football.

Good luck to Amendment 10 and here is to hoping we figure all this out and save ourselves and our kids the last best night in the world.

 

 

COMBINES A PART OF THE THREAT TO FRIDAY NIGHTS

March 31, 2013 in Camps-Clinics, Combines, Saving The Game by Football NW

The world of the Football Combine, where kids are tested and sorted out, has evolved.  Once run by a few credible organizations these events are now controlled to a great extent by people with ideas and profit motives that are against what traditional Friday Night Lights values are.

This is where many kids meet their first “Street Agent” promoter type and where they are encouraged to push the “I” over the “We”.  For traditional football fans and High School Coaches and programs this is where the legitimacy of Friday Night is threatened.

In a reprint we once again stress to parents and kids… stay away from these events unless they are Free and there is clear  benefits.

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Scam Alert: Combines Can Hurt More Then They Help- Revisited

by Dirk Knudsen | Posted on Friday, January 18th, 2013

Editors Note:   One April 12th of 2012 I wrote this.    It stirred controversy, support, hate mail, and calls from all over the US.  In the 11 months that have followed this we have seen another doubling of events like these Paid Combines mentioned here in.   And I wish you could all know all I know.  But you’ll have to take my word for it.  NWPR LOGO (1)

We asked the last 4 schools we talked to this question:

Do you pay attention to or look closely at the performance a kid has at a combine or showcase camp?

Answers as follows:

Oregon State Answer:  ”No not really.  We rarely if every look or even care.  We recruit based on what we see from a kid either in person or at our camps primarily.  There is way too much bad information out there now.”

Boise State Answer:  ”Not really.  There is too much Hype out there anymore.  We recruit very carefully and will only make an offer on kids we have seen up close and personal for the most part and Combines and Camp articles can not do that.  Never could.”

Idaho Answer:  ” The results are hard to trust and confirm.   A legitimate source maybe we look.  But at n time will any recruiting determination be made on this information.”

Arizona State Answer:  They have little credibility with our staff and evaluation of kids does not take this into consideration.

So the Combine in and of itself is not going to do much of anything.  Again there are exceptions but very few of them.  So please make sure to read the story below and understand there are a FEW that you may get exposure at a high enough level from legitimate Media in order to raise the status of your recruit.  But there are Very Few of them.

So as Combine and Camp season settles in have a read or re-read and share this one with your friends and families and your team cause guys are stressing all over the map right now.

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Combines Are Cash Registers And Can

Hurt More Then They Can Help!

This article is long overdue.  And it is not something we take lightly here at NorthwestPrepReport and our Sister sites at WashingtonPreps and OregonPreps.  But something has to be said and this is directed at all you parents and kids in the Pacific Northwest who we have covered and tried to look out for and written about tirelessly for 9 years now.

There is a money grab on.  And people are after your money first and for most.  Many of them don’t care what they need to say to get you to come out and compete.

You will be made to feel inadequate, left behind, or left out.  You will be made to feel as if you have to go or you will have no shot.  And you will be told if you come that “your life can change” and that your fortunes can turn in an instant.   But the reality is that almost all of that is about ego and getting you to drop that “C” Note and not about reality.

I am talking about High School Football Combines.

They were once rare to find and few and far between and College Coaches used them for major recruiting events.  Those days are over!  This year alone there have already been several in the Pacific Northwest and by the end of the Summer there will have been at least 20.  The issues at hand as we see them are that these events have lost their cache and their importance.

They really have.

And if you don’t believe that just ask any Coach from a Collegiate program.

“We could care less what a kid gets at a combine because we won’t trust those numbers.  And that only tells us a little bit anyway.  We recruit football players and athletes.  Not numbers,” said one PAC 12 Coach we spoke to this week.  ”There is no reason for a parent or an athlete to get pre-occupied with a combine when the job at hand should be keeping grades up and finding ways to get to know collegiate programs first hand.  No combine in the world will do that.”

Well said.  But combines which include testing physical skills like the 40 yard dash, vertical leap, 20 yard shuttle, bench press, and broad jump among other things can be run by anyone and can be quite lucrative.

At an NUC Combine in Oregon in 2009 kids got a rare chance to be seen and told how great they could be compared to other prospects. That was the only event like that back then in Oregon. This year alone there may be dozens as profiteers have jumped in. 

At a recent combine in the NW 60 plus athletes attended paying over $100 each for a chance to test and compete.  That is all well good and fine.  But there is another one up the road the week later and two in Seattle a week or two after that and soon there is just nothing but a lot of noise and no one paying attention that can really help the athlete sort out what his options are.

And what of the $6,000 dollars that mostly left town with the promoters?   How much of that is retained by the public schools who let their Million dollar fields and facilities be used?  Tough questions to ask but they need to be because it appears to be very very little.

So here is what we have to offer into the mix and we feel justified in saying these things because no one has seen this unfold here in the NW the way we have.


What you Need to know about Football Combines for High School Kids:

 

  • There are no Collegiate Coaches at Combines.  It is against the rules and regs.  The only guys watching you are going to the the same guys charging you money and telling you your special.   So take it for what it is.
  • Your scores may or may not be reported.  Everyone claims to send the scores out to Colleges Nationwide but few do.  And what if they do but your numbers were bad.  Now your chances are Hurt and not helped.
  • Your scores can hurt you more then they help you.  You can not control what is written down or displayed.
  • If the scores are not reported by a reputable source they will never see the Coaches desk nor should they.  They will be treated as SPAM.
  • If the measurements are not done by electronic equipment they can fool you into a false sense of self.  For instance a 4.46 on a hand held time is a 4.65 on a laser timer.  This is a real problem for athletes that want to know where they stand with other top recruits in the region.  Why pay to go to an event that can hurt you in the long run?
  • The formula used by almost every Combine and camp group is to host a regional or small market event and then encourage the athlete to come to more and more and more events that will lead up to the Mega-Event at a location where kids from all of these smaller events meet and compete.
  • Combines are held normally by companies who lack credentials and business licenses in the location they are holding them in and are held by people in most cases who have not had to endure background checks or scrutiny normally associated with High School Sports.
  • Many are in violation of State laws potentially and have little or no verifiable proof of Insurance.
  • MANY OF THESE EVENTS ARE USED AS A WAY TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE KIDS FOR ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES RUN BY THE COMBINE GROUP OR THEIR AFFILIATES.  THESE EVENTS ARE FERTILE SOIL FOR UNSCRUPULOUS STREET AGENTS  TO OFFER YOU OR YOUR ATHLETE THE RECRUITING PACKAGE.  But don’t worry as you will only have to pay a few hundred or more then likely a few thousand.

 


Are we saying never go to one? 

No not at all.  Just do not pay very much and certainly take a hard look at what you are going to.  By no means does it make sense to go to more and more of these events.

They are what they are; a chance to see how you stack up.  But if you have D 1 Visions for your future you better get to a Combine or event like the Army All American Combine where you will be judged based on competition against the Nation’s best.

Here is a real world approach to this process and how you can help yourself.

  • Talk to your High School Coach and ask them for their advice and input.  Many of these combines and camps sort of sneak in and out of town and do not even contact High School Coaches as they know they will be run off and unwelcome.  Go to Your Coach and Talk!  In  most cases you will get the straight scoop.
  • Get to the NIKE SPARQ COMBINE held at Tigard High School.  No one can touch Nike and SPARQ on this front.  IT IS FREE!!!!!  They use the latest and greatest electronic timers and measuring devices so be prepared.  And the event is the best you can go to and we have been to them all.   You have a good showing there you will raise your stock.  The Nike and SPARQ Staff are the most seasoned and most experienced we have met anywhere and they see the Nation’s best every year at these the Nation’s biggest and premier events.  We are lucky they come here.   Info on this coming soon.
  • If there is a Free event go if you have time.  If they are charging much money look at the list of critiques we listed above and ask yourself if alarms are going off.  Most likely any of these events will have this effect on you and you should immediately rethink your next move.

 

 

Lastly here is a great perspective we found from a guy named Joe Kenn who is a Dad, a Coach, a long time trainer, and a guy in the sports business.

“My biggest problem with high school combines is they make a tremendous amount of money on parents who aren’t truly in tune to a real recruiting process. I overheard several parents talking about attending up to five combines and one of their sons hadn’t even played a snap of varsity ball yet. Attending athletes are training specifically for combine tests, and combines are manufacturing results that don’t transfer to the game. Players are leaving themselves open to injury by not preparing for their sport. This isn’t a words win. You want a words win. Produce solid game tape! I should note that there is one caveat to this. If your son is a blue chip recruit, a specific combine may be needed to provide a shot at the main all-American games that are now played. However, these are generally invite-only combines.”

 

Combines are now a Dime a Dozen, are all about the money for the most part, and they play to the athletes and parents desires and Dreams.  The events are not relevant with only rare exceptions.  Athletes who are good students and exceptional football players get scholarships.  The same guys who have always been at the forefront are still getting the scholarships.  No combine will help you be that guy!

Believe me when I say we understand because I did all this stuff with my kids and we chased all these events and went to most of them.  After a while few if any stand out as being worth the investment of time and money and we fell into the trap that Joe Kenn talks about above.  We had our son train to do well in the combine events and he did that.

But the time and money we spent doing that taught him how to do things that college coaches cared little about and that did not prepare him to be a better football player.

In the end the best thing you can do for your kid is get him in front of Coaches who can help assess where you are at and get game film.  If you do not do those things you had better be one of the above mentioned natural born Blue Chips.

We are here for you all you guys to tell the world your story better then anyone can through the Nations largest network.  But if my words left you turned off then maybe….just maybe… the truth hit home.

Contact me anytime I can help any of you at 503-799-8383 or dirkknudsen@gmail.com.

All the best from me and the staffs at Oregon and  NWPR, OregonPreps.com, WashingtonPreps.com and the RivalsHigh Network!

About the Author

Dirk is a lifelong resident of the Pacific NW; athlete and Merit scholar. He runs camps, clinics, and has been a sports writer and analyst for nearly a decade now; mostly with Rivals.com as the editor of OregonPreps and WashingtonPreps.com. Dirk is the founder of NWPR & BrainChampions.org; a charity for injured athletes suffering from Brain Trauma / Concussion. He is a father of three and married.

Combines Have Become Cash Registers and Their Value Tainted

April 27, 2012 in Camps-Clinics, Combines by Football NW

Combines Hurt More Then Help

This article is long overdue.  And it is not something we take lightly here at WashingtonPreps and OregonPreps.  But something has to be said and this is directed at all you parents and kids in the Pacific Northwest who we have covered and tried to look out for and written about tirelessly for 8 years now.

There is a money grab on.  And people are after your money first and for most.  Many of them don’t care what they need to say to get you to come out and compete.

You will be made to feel inadequate, left behind, or left out.  You will be made to feel as if you have to go or you will have no shot.  And you will be told if you come that “your life can change” and that your fortunes can turn in an instant.   But the reality is that almost all of that is about ego and getting you to drop that “C” Note and not about reality.

I am talking about High School Football Combines.

They were once rare to find and few and far between and College Coaches used them for major recruiting events.  Those days are over!  This year alone there have already been several in the Pacific Northwest and by the end of the Summer there will have been at least 20.  The issues at hand as we see them are that these events have lost their cache and their importance.  They really have.  And if you don’t believe that just ask any Coach from a Collegiate program.

“We could care less what a kid gets at a combine because we won’t trust those numbers.  And that only tells us a little bit anyway.  We recruit football players and athletes.  Not numbers,” said one PAC 12 Coach we spoke to this week.  ”There is no reason for a parent or an athlete to get pre-occupied with a combine when the job at hand should be keeping grades up and finding ways to get to know collegiate programs first hand.  No combine in the world will do that.”

Well said.  But combines which include testing physical skills like the 40 yard dash, vertical leap, 20 yard shuttle, bench press, and broad jump among other things can be run by anyone and can be quite lucrative.

At a recent combine in the NW 60 plus athletes attended paying over $100 each for a chance to test and compete.  That is all well good and fine.  But there is another one up the road the week later and two in Seattle a week or two after that and soon there is just nothing but a lot of noise and no one paying attention that can really help the athlete sort out what his options are.

And what of the $6,000 dollars that mostly left town with the promoters?  How much of that is retained by the public schools who let their Million dollar fields and facilities be used?  Tough questions to ask but they need to be because it appears to be very very little.

So here is what we have to offer into the mix and we feel justified in saying these things because no one has seen this unfold here in the NW the way we have.


What you Need to know about Football Combines for High School Kids:

  • There are no Collegiate Coaches at Combines.  It is against the rules and regs.  The only guys watching you are going to the the same guys charging you money and telling you your special.  So take it for what it is.
  • Your scores may or may not reported.  Everyone claims to send the scores out to Colleges Nationwide but few do.
  • Your scores can hurt you more then they help you.  You can not control what is written down or displayed.​
  • If the scores are not reported by a reputable source they will never see the Coaches desk nor should they.  They will be treated as SPAM.​
  • If the meaurments are not down by electronic equipment they can fool you into a false sense of self.  For instance a 4.46 on a hand held time is a 4.65 on a laser timer.  This is a real problem for athletes that want to know where they stand with other top recruits in the region.  Why pay to go to an event that can hurt you in the long run?​
  • The formula used by almost every Combine and camp group is to host a regional or small market event and then encourage the athlete to come to more and more and more events that will lead up to the Mega-Event at a location where kids from all of these smaller events meet and compete.​
  • Combines are held normally by companies who lack credentials and business licenses in the location they are holding them in and are held by people in most cases who have not had to endure background checks or scrutiny normally associated with High School Sports.​​
  • MANY OF THESE EVENTS ARE USED AS A WAY TO GAIN ACCESS TO THE KIDS FOR ADDITIONAL BUSINESSES RUN BY THE COMBINE GROUP OR THEIR AFFILIATES. THESE EVENTS ARE FERTILE SOIL FOR UNSCRUPULOUS STREET AGENTS TO OFFER YOU OR YOUR ATHLETE THE RECRUITING PACKAGE.   But don’t worry as you will only have to pay a few hundred or more then likely a few thousand.​


Are we saying never go to one?  No not at all.  Just do not pay very much and certainly take a hard look at what you are going to.  By no means does it make sense to go to more and more of these events.

They are what they are; a chance to see how you stack up.  But if you have D1 Visions for your future you better get to a Combine or event like the Army All American Combine where you will be judged based on competition against the Nation’s best.

Here is a real world approach to this process and how you can help yourself.

  • Talk to your High School Coach and ask them for their advice and input.  Many of these combines and camps sort of sneak in and out of town and do not even contact High School Coaches as they know they will be run off and unwelcome.  Go to Your Coach and Talk!  In  most cases you will get the straight scoop.​
  • Get to the NIKE SPARQ COMBINE held at Tigard High School.  No one can touch Nike and SPARQ on this front.  IT IS FREE!!!!!  They use the latest and greatest electronic timers and measuring devices so be prepared.  And the event is the best you can go to and we have been to them all.   You have a good showing there you will raise your stock.  The Nike and SPARQ Staff are the most seasoned and most experienced we have met anywhere and they see the Nation’s best every year at these the Nation’s biggest and premier events.  We are lucky they come here.  REGISTER FOR THE JUNE 9th, 2012 Nike SPARQ Combine- Event Right Here.
  • If there is a Free event go if you have time.  If they are charging much money look at the list of critiques we listed above and ask yourself if alarms are going off.  Most likely any of these events will have this effect on you and you should immediately reconsider your next move.

 

Matt James of Nike Football and SPARQ is featured as one of the best trainers in the Country at the FREE Nike SPARQ Events which will stop in Tigard, Oregon June 9th, 2012.

 

Lastly here is a great perspective we found from a guy named Joe Kenn who is a Dad, a Coach, a long time trainer, and a guy in the sports business.

“My biggest problem with high school combines is they make a tremendous amount of money on parents who aren’t truly in tune to a real recruiting process. I overheard several parents talking about attending up to five combines and one of their sons hadn’t even played a snap of varsity ball yet. Attending athletes are training specifically for combine tests, and combines are manufacturing results that don’t transfer to the game. Players are leaving themselves open to injury by not preparing for their sport. This isn’t a words win. You want a words win. Produce solid game tape! I should note that there is one caveat to this. If your son is a blue chip recruit, a specific combine may be needed to provide a shot at the main all-American games that are now played. However, these are generally invite-only combines.”

 

Combines are now a Dime a Dozen, are all about the money for the most part, and they play to the athletes and parents desires and Dreams.  The events are not relevant with only rare exceptions.  Athletes who are good students and exceptional football players get scholarships.  The same guys who have always been at the forefront are still getting the scholarships.  No combine will help you be that guy!

Believe me when I say we understand because I did all this stuff with my kids and we chased all these events and went to most of them.  After a while few if any stand out as being worth the investment of time and money and we fell into the trap that Joe Kenn talks about above.  We had our son train to do well in the combine events and he did that.  But the time and money we spent doing that taught him how to do things that college coaches cared little about and that did not prepare him to be a better football player.

In the end the best thing you can do for your kid is get him in front of Coaches who can help assess where you are at and get game film.  If you do not do those things you had better be one of the above mentioned natural born Blue Chips.

We are here for you all you guys to tell the world your story better then anyone can through the Nations largest network.  But if my words left you turned off then maybe….just maybe… the truth hit home.

Contact me anytime I can help any of you at 503-799-8383 or dirkknudsen@gmail.com.

All the best from me and the staffs at Oregon and WashingtonPreps.com and the RivalsHigh Network!

 

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Dirk is a lifelong resident of the Pacific NW; athlete and Merit scholar. He runs camps, clinics, and has been a sports writer and analyst for nearly a decade now; mostly with Rivals.com as the editor of OregonPreps and WashingtonPreps.com. Dirk is the founder of NWPR & BrainChampions.org; a charity for injured athletes suffering from Brain Trauma / Concussion. He is a father of three and married.